Analogue Adventures – Part 7: Cinestill 800T

Introduction

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Cinestill 800T

When looking for a higher ISO color film in 2022 – especially one for shooting under artifical light without the need for additional color correction filters – the Cinestill 800T is pretty much without competition. But there are a few things to be aware of, so let’s have a closer look.

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4

Cinestill 800T

Like the Silbersalz35 500T the Cinestill 800T is actually Kodak Vision 3 500T/5219 cut and repacked for shooting with your 35mm still camera, but there is a major difference.

©Kodak

When getting films from the Silbersalz35 guys you are shooting unaltered cinefilm that needs the more complicated ECN-2 process for development.
The Cinestill guys on the other hand removed the remjet layer on the film to make it possible to develope these films with the ordinary C-41 process.

When comparing the Silbersalz35 FAQ to the Cinestill 800T FAQ I noticed a bit of tension: the Silbersalz35 guys say to get the best quality out of this 500T/5219 film stock it needs to be unaltered and you need to develope it with the ECN-2 process and using the C-41 process will noticeably degrade the image quality.
The Cinestill guys on the other hand say removing the remjet makes it “safe” to be developed with the more common C-41 process and that process leads to higher gamma and therefore “improves” the sensitivity up to ISO 800.

But let’s put the marketing talk aside and have the pictures do the talking instead.

Halos

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4

One thing the Cinestill 800T is famous for are red halos around point light sources. Some people love it – I even saw some guys selling photoshop brushes to mimic this – but me? Not so much.
We do live in a time where “different” is often mistaken for “better” though and this is a rather distinct “feature” making the 800T pictures “stand out” which can therefore easily be used in marketing.

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

Light leaks

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

In the FAQ the Cinestill guys say the 800T is more prone to light leaks and static discharge than other films and indeed the first 3 pictures on this film have massive light leaks.
I do wonder if this is actually due to the repacking process though…

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

I only shot one roll so far, so maybe tell me in the comment section if this is something happening to the first few exposures to you, too.

Compared to Silbersalz35 500T

Now doing side by side comparisons with different films is a bit complicated, especially as I don’t have two analogue cameras and two lenses which are exactly the same.
So we are now comparing the last shot on the Silbersalz35 500T roll to the first (actually 3rd) shot on the Cinestill 800T roll.

Leica M6 | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 Ultron Type I | f/2.0

Now unfortunately as stated above the first exposures of the 800T roll show massive light leaks which ruins this comparison a bit.
Still, what I see is higher contrast on the Cinestill 800T, but higher dynamic range, tonal range, no halos and way more pleasing colors on the Silbersalz 500T.

It should be noted though: I shot the 800T as ISO800 and the 500T as ISO250 (so both as recommended by the FAQs), and ISO250 and ISO800 are a very notable difference as well.

Impressions

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

I guess I am with the Silbersalz35 FAQ on this one: removing the remjet and developing the Kodak Vision 3 500T in C-41 leads to severly degraded image quality.

But the thing is this: even when shooting 35mm film I demand a certain amount of image quality. This is not true for everyone. I am sure there are people out there that really “dig” the halos, light leaks as well as the low dynamic and tonal range. It is just not the case for me. Especially not for 15+ bucks a roll.

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

I still have one more roll in the fridge and I will of course use it, but I will not buy this film again.
Will try Portra 800 next time and see how that one works for me under artificial light.

More Sample Pictures

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Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 ISM | f/1.4
cinestill 800t 800 tungsten cinefilm kodak vision 3 review m6 leica analogue analog
Leica M6 | Cinestill 800T | Voigtländer VM 28mm 2.0 | f/2.0

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6 thoughts on “Analogue Adventures – Part 7: Cinestill 800T”

  1. Yes, I think the total package from Silbersalz35 – film, development and scan – is fabulous.
    And maybe you already know the
    EASTMAN DOUBLE-X Negative Film 5222, should you be interested in analog black and white photography.
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  2. Bei den Halos und Light Leaks gebe ich dir Recht, aber die Farbpalette taugt mir total. Bin gespannt auf weitere Teile der Serie. Mit jeder Episode wächst meine Lust, mir auch Analog zuzulegen!

    1. Das ist ja die Idee der Serie, dass man sieht, wie die Ergebnisse mit verschiedenen (noch erhältlichen) Filmen aussehen und man entscheiden kann, was einem gefällt 🙂

  3. i must say i do like this film and the halos it gives.
    To me a distinct look is what makes film stand out over digital, since it cannot be easily “faked”.

  4. Great article, I’ve really enjoyed your dive into film. I have mixed feelings on 800T. On one hand, images out of it are so unique and have a certain feel to them that isn’t easy to get with digital, when they come out good it’s excellent. On the other hand, the inconsistent quality of 800T makes me hesitate to use it.

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